Anyone have update on AM2011T Seal?

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Anyone have update on AM2011T Seal?

Post by jdjoe_indiana » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:13 pm

Have a 730 D to get out of shop than its my 420C's turn. Wondering if anyone has found a alternative to this seal? Does anyone know who makes it for deere? Does it have a name on it? Did some looking today seems to be the 2.125 OD that is the problem. Can find 2 inch all day long. Also on pins and bushings, what is available. Lavoy, was do you think of Berco rollers? What do you sell new rollers for? Saw a guy on the redpower forum that said he paid $105 from some Industrial Supply Company. Penny for your thoughts..... Joe
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Post by Lavoy » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:07 am

I am still working on seals, I have found no alternative, and no good answers. I am going to pursue having them made, but that will be a slow process I assume.
Pins and bushing supply is sprodadic as usual, I was able to get a couple sets a month or so ago, have not checked on more lately.
$105 would be a screaming deal on Berco rollers, I kind of doubt that he actually was getting Berco at that price. I pretty much have had to quit Berco for rollers, they are no longer in the ballpark as far as price. One of my wholesalers is basically quitting them too, and they were a huge Berco distributor at one time.
Price really can be hard to nail down on rollers now, too many people I have never heard of making them, new ones coming out, and such. I sold 10 not too long ago, $120/each, can't even tell you the brand name, but good looking rollers.
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A Idea?

Post by jdjoe_indiana » Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:35 pm

Call me dumb. But here goes. Could we make a bushing that would insert into the roller to bush the OD down to 2"?? A press fit brass or something? As I find the 2" are readily available and cheap. Joe
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Post by Lavoy » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:06 am

It is not a function of the diameter, it is the type of seal. It is not a conventional seal like you are thinking of, it is a spring loaded bellows type seal with a rawhide face that pressed against the thrust plate.
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Post by jdjoe_indiana » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:20 pm

Your right, I have not had one apart, so I am just speculating as to the type and function. Didn't another member look into get these made? Lavoy have you heard of ITP for a source for undercarriage parts. I am supposed to be getting some info in the mail as to what they offer. Will share what I find out. Just enjoy the parts search to keep us all happily running our toys. Joe
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Post by Lavoy » Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:53 am

Yes, used to deal with them years ago. They are such a bunch of high priced never return a phone call pricks that I quit doing business with them.
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Post by wwattson » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:49 pm

Lavoy,

Don't beat around the bush. What do you think of those guys really? :wink:
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Post by Lavoy » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:18 pm

Bill,
At the speed I type, I would be up all night. :lol:
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Post by wwattson » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:32 pm

That good. Well, I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself by beating your fingers bloody on your keyboard.

I'm really starting to learn that there's just as many people ready to take advantage of you in this hobby as there is anyplace else (present company excepted). Probably the same 90-10 rule as anything else with the vast majority being pretty good and honest and a slippery minority of characters that don't seem to catch on to the idea that word gets around and gets around really fast on the internet.

By the way, who's all going to Gathering of the Green? I'm planning on it.
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Post by Lavoy » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:03 am

I won't elaborate much, but they screwed a buddy of mine as well, to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars. It got reduced, but took him years to recover.
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