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Tateremtp · Post by **Tateremtp** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:06 pm

This is my first crawler and on changing fluids Like a dummy put oil on the drive clutches. I drained them ASAP as i realized the mess up. What damage have I caused and DO i need to pull them and replace em. God what an idiot.... any help appreciated........

jim420 · Post by **jim420** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:37 am

do you mean the reverser or the final drive clutches?

Tateremtp · Post by **Tateremtp** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:43 am

On the rear casing there are two bung hole caps. In my delusional world I put gear oil in them.... I think it is the steerign clutches

JimAnderson · Post by **JimAnderson** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:31 am

Hello,
If you put oil in the steering clutch housings you have ruined the
fibers in the clutches.Worse is that the brake bands are now junk.
You can flush the housings with solvent and run the machine but
the clutches will slip and the brakes won't work like they should.
You will need to put up with the slipping or bite the bullet and redo
the clutches and brakes.Either way make sure and get the service
manual.The parts manuals help also.Luck JimAnderson

Tateremtp · Post by **Tateremtp** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:38 am

any idea of the cost

JimAnderson · Post by **JimAnderson** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:32 am

Hello,
Roughly $500 to $600 for parts.Lavoy has what you need and
is good to deal with.If you have just purchased the machine you
might flush the finals and run it for awhile.It won't fix itself but other
issues might pop up.Crawler are fun but aren't cheap.Since you will
have to split the track and pull the finals you might want to look at
the gears and bearings in the finals.Luck JimAnderson

Tateremtp · Post by **Tateremtp** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:59 pm

has there been a descriptive thread on how to do this?

mapaduke@yahoo.com · Post by **mapaduke@yahoo.com** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:21 pm

If you put oil in the hole with the barrel bung than chances are that the throwout barring may have been what got most of the oil.If thats the case do not moove the tractor.I would remoove the squair axces cover on top and the 3/4 plug on the very bottom of that housing and spray every thing downe with brake clean and let it drain out that bottom hole.You might get lucky depending on how much oil got in thair.Anything over a 1/2 pint you will need to se lavoy for brake band and fiber disks.

RON

JD440ICD2006 · Post by **JD440ICD2006** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:01 pm

I hope it comes out good like only oil on the throw out bearings.
In the event that it got on the fiber disks, something similar has happened to most of us that "tinker" with these.
Part of the fun and pleasure for me is learning to work on them, what makes them run, and the great people that I meet through this site, etc.
Some of the things I have learned have been free, others have been more expensive.
Just figure out what it did and go from there, fix it right. Any short cuts with these always come back to haunt us.
The main thing is make it as fun as you can.

Swawpy · Post by **Swawpy** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:27 pm

Did you add just a pint and a half or so thinking it was the final? Did you run it and operate the levers?

If added thinking it was the final and you have not ran and operated you may get lucky if the linings are not saturated. If you added enough oil to just fill what you thought were the finals I dont think it would be enough to fill the bottom of the housings and fill up to the clutch level. It certainly would not do it any good...but I don't think it would be enough to submerge the clutch or bottom of the brake, not sure. Either way try and maybe degrease with a powerful degreaser and hot water then run the sh*t out of to dry the linings....can't hurt it now. Don't run it if it does slip because the linings will glaze over and will have no chance of ever working right once that happens. If it was mine I would not be afraid to flush and degrease very thoroughly.

On another thought...if it is still in the shop and hasnt been run- maybe rotate the final clutch assembly 180* by hand and see if any oil signs are evident before you try fill/flush/degrease. I think it really depends on how much was added and if drained before operation right away- ie: was it a quart or a five gallon bucket?

Tateremtp · Post by **Tateremtp** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:39 pm

It was about 2 quarts in each side. I stopped when it flowed out of the linkage holes. I will try all to see Thanks alot....
I am changing my profile to.... Oily clutch boy heheheh

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