Anyone run a hydraulic pto winch on their Early Crawler ?

BigV · Post by **BigV** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:32 am

I purchased a hydraulic winch- I think it is a Garwood- that came off of a large Army truck. I am thinking the army truck is a 5 ton.

Most of these are just straight PTO driven winches, this one is a hydraulic winch.

I figure I'll need 20 gpm or so to run this winch, and I don't want to screw with my 420C's hydraulic system.

I've got a 20 gallon hydraulic tank I can mount behind the seat of my crawler, and I have the plumbing for it.

A Prince 20gpm hydraulic driven 540rpm pump runs about $435 new, including shipping.

I don't want to pay 435, so I've got some feelers out and I may be able to get a take off unit or used unit for $200 or less. I've also got a forward and reverse lever off of a huge wood splitter.

I would like to be able to use this winch to load some old cars and scrap on my trailer. My plan would be to scotch the 420C and trailer and let the winch pull the cars on the trailer.

I know the factory John Dear Gearmatic would be better, but I can likely get this whole setup going for $500 or less. I traded for the winch, I know it runs.

Tigerhaze · Post by **Tigerhaze** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:55 pm

Others will have to answer this for a 420 crawler, but I would not autmatically assume that the PTO on the 420 crawler rotates at the standard 540 rpm that tractors do. I know that the new generation crawler PTOs aren't a PTO in the traditional sense (they are solely for running winches or hydrualic pumps) and run at a much faster rotation rate.

Post by **Lavoy** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:41 pm

PTO on 420 is standard 540, no need to worry.
Lavoy

gregjo1948 · Post by **gregjo1948** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:24 am

Is scotch a southern term for something or is that a typo? gregjo1948

BigV · Post by **BigV** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:13 am

I have no idea if it is a southern only thing. I've heard it in Ohio and PA, also from Canadians.

To scotch or scotching refers to use of a scotch block or other device to immobilize a vehicle from moving.

These jackasses have patent(or at least applied for a patent) on something that has been done by others for years: http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20120181121

Of course they're at Universities in NC, so maybe it is a southern expression, or Appalachian-Elizabethean English influenced.

Hmmm.

Paul Buhler · Post by **Paul Buhler** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:28 am

Yins gotta remember we all speak what we learned growing up local

Are tracks corked or caulked?

gregjo1948 · Post by **gregjo1948** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:40 pm

Thank you for the scotch lesson. I live by a (sounds like) crick. It's spelled creek. gregjo1948

jtrichard · Post by **jtrichard** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:58 pm

that's like how many Rs are there in wrash as in i need to wrrrash some clothes today

gregjo1948 · Post by **gregjo1948** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:49 am

Sorry BigV! We got a little off topic. gregjo1948

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