General help and support for your Lindeman through 2010 John Deere crawler
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dannie
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by dannie » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:17 pm
I recently purchased a 1968 450b (i think) dozer, and the track idler spring is broken, and needs replacement. I found a replacement, but according to the manuel, it says I need a "60 ton track pin removal press".
does anyone know where I can beg/borrow/steal/rent/buy one from, other than a shop. because i'm used to doing things myself, because I then know they are done right. and there is no greater satisfaction than getting dirt under your nails.
I would appreciate any help.
this is my first post, and arent quite sure I am doing this right.

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DukeofDeere
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by DukeofDeere » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:05 pm
Welcome to this site!
This forum is for the older crawlers.
The one right below it is for the later models.
Duke
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dannie
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by dannie » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:10 pm
thanks Duke, will "move" post, at least i will try too.
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Stan Disbrow
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by Stan Disbrow » Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:37 pm
Hi,
Is ok. It is only '10' between a 440 and a 450!
Stan
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gregjo1948
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by gregjo1948 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:41 am
Do you even need a press to split the track? gregjo1948
JD 350B diesel 6way blade, Case 580B Loader/backhoe, Farmall 504 high crop w/ flail boom mower, International 404 , International 284 diesel w/belly mower, 1972 Ford F600 dump truck, Galion 3-5 roller, Allis Chalmers D17, 1620 Ford
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Stan Disbrow
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by Stan Disbrow » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:24 am
Hi,
There is one 'easily' removable pin, the Master Pin, which you 'pop' out to split the track. The rest of the pins need the press.
Note the quotes. The master pins require more work than the book makes it sound like!
Stan
There's No Such Thing As A Cheap Crawler!
Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (5045D), 2025 3025E
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gregjo1948
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by gregjo1948 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:24 am
I thought, from the way it sounds is, dannie just needs to split the track to replace the spring. Therefore, he really just needs to drive out the master pin. Notice the way I said "just" drive out the pin.

gregjo1948
JD 350B diesel 6way blade, Case 580B Loader/backhoe, Farmall 504 high crop w/ flail boom mower, International 404 , International 284 diesel w/belly mower, 1972 Ford F600 dump truck, Galion 3-5 roller, Allis Chalmers D17, 1620 Ford
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Stan Disbrow
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by Stan Disbrow » Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:49 am
Hi,
Yeah. He has to drop track to pull idler assy to replace spring
Just is right!
Stan
There's No Such Thing As A Cheap Crawler!
Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (5045D), 2025 3025E
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by Lavoy » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:59 pm
Pretty sure what is being referenced is a "master pin press" which is different from a regular track press.
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gregjo1948
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by gregjo1948 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:36 pm
I didn't know there is a "master pin press". I use a 2lb. hammer,swung with great vigor and a large punch, held with lockgrips. gregjo1948
JD 350B diesel 6way blade, Case 580B Loader/backhoe, Farmall 504 high crop w/ flail boom mower, International 404 , International 284 diesel w/belly mower, 1972 Ford F600 dump truck, Galion 3-5 roller, Allis Chalmers D17, 1620 Ford
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dannie
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by dannie » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:01 pm
Sorry Guys, haven't been ignoring your comments, thought I was on the wrong board. I re-posted in on another, and have gotten a great amount of help.
The Manual stated that a press was necessary to open the track to get to the spring to replace it. I being "ignorant" was trying to locate one. But thru this web site, and all of your advice, have learned that the manual is a good guide, but NOT the Bible.
All that being said. I am going to roll up my sleeves, like the men who made this Country Great, and fix this wonderful piece of machinery, (beauty is in the eye of the beholder) because trust me "it" over the years has been abused. But soon will be great again.
thanks again for ALL of your help.
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Tigerhaze
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by Tigerhaze » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:22 pm
I have found over the years working on a lot of different types of machinery that service manuals are good for understanding the basics and having some specs like torques, etc. but once you have actually gone through the repair process that you can identify omissions, shortcuts, etc. That is the beauty of a discussion board like this- you can talk to someone that has already learned the hard way

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