440 ICD Blacck smoke
- Captainjoe
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440 ICD Blacck smoke
Starting to get a lot of black smoke when running my crawler.Just noticed the today. So i quit early.
Doesn't seem to be burning any oil?
Going to switch from Rotella 30 weight to Rotella 40 weight?
Or would it be better to use chevron delo 100 40W
Doesn't seem to be burning any oil?
Going to switch from Rotella 30 weight to Rotella 40 weight?
Or would it be better to use chevron delo 100 40W
It's better to seek forgivness than to ask for permission...
- Captainjoe
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started smoking more when I put in a diesel fuel additive as I double dosed it.
Its definitely black...
Injectors? maybe glow plugs?
No noticable drop in power just a lot of smoke... And she didn't hardly smoke at all before, under full power.
Book says 30 weight but your the second person that said to go with 40 weight...
Thanks, Joe
Its definitely black...
Injectors? maybe glow plugs?
No noticable drop in power just a lot of smoke... And she didn't hardly smoke at all before, under full power.
Book says 30 weight but your the second person that said to go with 40 weight...
Thanks, Joe
It's better to seek forgivness than to ask for permission...
Either 30 or 40 wt, I would lean towards 40 wt, but ONLY Delo 100 or equivalent, and there are not a lot of equivalents out there.
Lavoy
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- Captainjoe
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there are no glow plugs in Detroits .... Detroit diesel says 40 wt ONLY in 53 series engines
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2010 with 622 dozer with mod. 35 ripper and a 2010 with 622 dozer bought in 1969 and a 2010 loader with drott and mod. 36 ripper
You will have to go to Chevron oil jobber, not real likely to find it anywhere else. I finally found it at a large distributor about 40 miles from me.
Lavoy
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looks like OREILLYS has it $13 a gallon or should be able to get it http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detai ... yword=delo
2010 with 622 dozer with mod. 35 ripper and a 2010 with 622 dozer bought in 1969 and a 2010 loader with drott and mod. 36 ripper
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It is tough to find.
Sounds like the fuel additive is breaking down some carbon buildup and has possibly clogged the injectors somewhat causing a poor fuel spray, thus making it not fully burn the fuel in the chamber.
Sounds like the fuel additive is breaking down some carbon buildup and has possibly clogged the injectors somewhat causing a poor fuel spray, thus making it not fully burn the fuel in the chamber.
Ben
Great Grandpa's 1960 440ICD 602 blade
Between SN's: 455,633 - 456,801
Currently Rebuilding/Restoring
Great Grandpa's 1960 440ICD 602 blade
Between SN's: 455,633 - 456,801
Currently Rebuilding/Restoring
- Captainjoe
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lavoy,jtrichard,
Got two gallons of delo 100 40 on the way. Oreillys had in warehouse an is shipping to Parkersburg store(30 miles away) will be there at 4:30
WaaaHo! and i just picked up a Wix 51100 oil filter this morning...
Whiteclipse16,
Was smoking black before I added additive...
Now its really smoking...lol
Hoping it work through it as it will have a couple days to sit.
Thanks Guys.
How hard is it to clean / test / replace an injector(s)
Got two gallons of delo 100 40 on the way. Oreillys had in warehouse an is shipping to Parkersburg store(30 miles away) will be there at 4:30
WaaaHo! and i just picked up a Wix 51100 oil filter this morning...
Whiteclipse16,
Was smoking black before I added additive...
Now its really smoking...lol
Hoping it work through it as it will have a couple days to sit.
Thanks Guys.
How hard is it to clean / test / replace an injector(s)
It's better to seek forgivness than to ask for permission...
Pretty easy to replace on a Detroit, difficult to clean or test unless you have injection testing equipment. Rebuilts are in the $100 range exchange from Detroit.
Lavoy
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