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Post by MarteV » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:04 pm

Just bought an old 1010 crawler that needs some attention. Intending on using it to clean up in our woods and other small jobs around. Looks like it is either a '61 0r '62 - serial number begins with a 2 but not sure on rest without getting another look and has gas engine. I was told machine has been parked for several years because of steering issues(doesn't turn right).
Was thinking it was going to need clutches. Got machine running and seems to run fine. Had a slight knock or rattle from main clutch area - thinking release bearing since it pretty much went away with clutch pushed. After reading here - thought I would try a few things( haven't removed inspection covers for adjustment etc.). right lever has very little resistance compared to left - 3-4 inches free play. Took it out - tracks straight going forward. Put it against tree and both tracks spin. Thinking might just be adjustment or linkage issues? (this is my first crawler). While testing it out I go to back up - after putting it in reverse and releasing clutch nothing but nasty grinding noise and machine won't move- thinking main clutch or release bearing issues. Wondering on thoughts as to any checks before pulling motor. Could see it having clutch issues with bearing/disc if it did sit as long as I was told it had. Wondering if there are any common main clutch issues or checks to do first with these machines before dismantling and if clutch parts are readily available. Thanks for any input.

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Post by Lavoy » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:22 pm

If it pushes forward with no noise, it will back up with no noise, no difference as far as engine clutch is concerned, so I don't believe that is the issue. More likely a transmission issue if the noise is that bad.
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Post by MarteV » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:48 pm

Sorry. Before I checked to see if tracks would spin it would go through all gears and reverse no problem. After - it doesn't go forward or reverse and if idling in neutral noise is there but not very severe. After clutch is pressed, machine put in any gear and clutch is released there is the nasty noise and no power to either track. Was kind of thinking there was something in clutch under load?

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Post by MarteV » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:52 pm

Are there inspection holes in bell housing/trans to check clutch,pressure plate, release brg etc?

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Post by jtrichard » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:04 pm

i doubt that the no steering to the right is an adjustment.... i would say that the right clutch pack is so swollen from water/rust that the fingers are way down that's why you have all that free play in the right lever
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Post by MarteV » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:22 pm

Swollen clutch packs will drive forward without any slippage as normal - correct? Fingers get pushed in or bent and you have nothing to push against? Should I have a brake on that side with that issue? No brake or anything on that side.

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Post by MarteV » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:26 pm

For the most part - are steering and main clutch parts available?

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Post by gus » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:43 pm

Is it possibly in 2 gears? The clutch would slip/chatter and nothing would move. Can it be moved by pushing/pulling? If not, check the tranny.

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Post by Tigerhaze » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:43 pm

MarteV wrote:For the most part - are steering and main clutch parts available?
Yes, those parts are readily available from Deere and aftermarket sources. You do need to be careful who you buy discs from as there are some junk ones out there.

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Post by jtrichard » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:48 pm

YES parts are available .....yes and no on the brake depends on what condition the brake band is in and there may have been someone in there trying to "adjust" it hoping it would work... your going to have to pull it and see just what you have on both clutches on the main clutch you may have ripped the center out of the disc but who knows
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Post by MarteV » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:48 pm

Thanks for the replies. Yes it will move when pushed/pulled. Tried that at first thinking something might be stuck in tranny. Pulled in neutral then in gear to see if something might be stuck that way - no change. Was kind of wondering if they had an issue with shift forks/linkage etc.

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Post by MarteV » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:50 pm

Good to know stuff is available. Machine really isn't that bad as far overall condition. Was hoping it wasn't scrap/parts.

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Post by Tigerhaze » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:25 am

The main issue for parts availability on 1010s and early S/N 2010s is the undercarriage- many of the track parts (track links, front idlers, possibly sprockets) are no longer available new. Pins and bushings for your existing track links are available sporadically. Hopefully your undercarriage set is decent.
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Post by MarteV » Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:20 pm

gonna make a good winter project. Was planning on going over it this winter to make it a good, usable machine. Wasn`t really planning on pulling motor but don`t think it wii be all that bad to do.

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