Roller Lubricant
- Stan Disbrow
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Roller Lubricant
Hi,
I just tripped across another source of track roller lubricant.
Chevron MultiFak EP
This is a Lithium thickened grease available from 000 thru 2. For rollers, number 0 is what to use.
Of course, this is pretty much the same as JD Corn Head grease. But, maybe someone has a Chevron lube dealer which is handier than a JD Ag Dealer.
I found it after tripping across a conversion chart for Kendall lubricants (most of which I am familiar with from when we had our tractor shops). Kendall's was L-406.
The chart crossed L-406 to Chevron Dura-Lith, which has had a name change to MultiFak.
Actually, any make of Lithium-thickened number 0 grease would be the same as the original Track and Roller Lube. The problem is finding a convenient source of it these days. Most places only carry number 2, usually with several different thickeners, but number 0 is harder to come by.
The key to number 0 is that is stays put like a grease when idle, yet flows like a gear oil when under motion and/or pressure. Just what we want in rollers.
Stan
I just tripped across another source of track roller lubricant.
Chevron MultiFak EP
This is a Lithium thickened grease available from 000 thru 2. For rollers, number 0 is what to use.
Of course, this is pretty much the same as JD Corn Head grease. But, maybe someone has a Chevron lube dealer which is handier than a JD Ag Dealer.
I found it after tripping across a conversion chart for Kendall lubricants (most of which I am familiar with from when we had our tractor shops). Kendall's was L-406.
The chart crossed L-406 to Chevron Dura-Lith, which has had a name change to MultiFak.
Actually, any make of Lithium-thickened number 0 grease would be the same as the original Track and Roller Lube. The problem is finding a convenient source of it these days. Most places only carry number 2, usually with several different thickeners, but number 0 is harder to come by.
The key to number 0 is that is stays put like a grease when idle, yet flows like a gear oil when under motion and/or pressure. Just what we want in rollers.
Stan
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Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)
Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)
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- Stan Disbrow
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Hi,
Well, not any grease. Number Zero grease, or thinner.
I do not think pumping in Number Two will do much good in the rollers. It is too thick to move around in there, so won't get to where it is needed. Some wrecked rollers I have seen were packed full of No 2....
In some ways the modern lubes are better than what was. In other ways, worse. There were some really good additives which wound up banned for various reasons. The replacements often times are not as good.
Fortunately, the Corn Head grease is just as good in rollers as any of the older stuff was.
Stan
Well, not any grease. Number Zero grease, or thinner.
I do not think pumping in Number Two will do much good in the rollers. It is too thick to move around in there, so won't get to where it is needed. Some wrecked rollers I have seen were packed full of No 2....
In some ways the modern lubes are better than what was. In other ways, worse. There were some really good additives which wound up banned for various reasons. The replacements often times are not as good.
Fortunately, the Corn Head grease is just as good in rollers as any of the older stuff was.
Stan
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There's No Such Thing As A Cheap Crawler!
Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)
Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)
- Stan Disbrow
- 350 crawler
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- Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:13 pm
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Hi,
Oh, and I ought to mention getting it in. Need a low pressure gun:
Alemite 4015-A4 is the ticket.
Last I knew Lavoy stocks them.
Costly, yes. But, better than blowing out those *very* costly bellows seals. If we can even get them any more....
Stan
Oh, and I ought to mention getting it in. Need a low pressure gun:
Alemite 4015-A4 is the ticket.
Last I knew Lavoy stocks them.
Costly, yes. But, better than blowing out those *very* costly bellows seals. If we can even get them any more....
Stan
There's No Such Thing As A Cheap Crawler!
Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)
Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)
No, I don't stock the guns, I recommend pistol grip guns to most people. The new low pressure guns are still 4000 PSI I think.
Lavoy
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- Stan Disbrow
- 350 crawler
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- Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:13 pm
- Location: Raleigh, NC
Hi,
Ah. I thought you did. Danged wetware!
The pistol grip guns generally run in the 4000-5000 PSI range, so are better than standard lever guns, which run in the 7000-10,000 PSI range.
The Alemite 4015 series is 1800 PSI. It is their lowest pressure grease gun. It is also high volume, putting out 1 oz in 7 strokes.
In the FWIW department, they also have the 4035 oil gun. That one is like the old thing I have for using the old coal-tar based heavy oil dad used in the 420. But, the 4035 isnt for grease. No spring to push the grease, as oil doesn't need one (and if it had one would slowly leak all the oil out while you weren't using it).
Of course, Alemite guns are not cheap. So, one can get by with a cheap pistol grip gun and a little caution when using it.
Stan
Ah. I thought you did. Danged wetware!
The pistol grip guns generally run in the 4000-5000 PSI range, so are better than standard lever guns, which run in the 7000-10,000 PSI range.
The Alemite 4015 series is 1800 PSI. It is their lowest pressure grease gun. It is also high volume, putting out 1 oz in 7 strokes.
In the FWIW department, they also have the 4035 oil gun. That one is like the old thing I have for using the old coal-tar based heavy oil dad used in the 420. But, the 4035 isnt for grease. No spring to push the grease, as oil doesn't need one (and if it had one would slowly leak all the oil out while you weren't using it).
Of course, Alemite guns are not cheap. So, one can get by with a cheap pistol grip gun and a little caution when using it.
Stan
There's No Such Thing As A Cheap Crawler!
Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)
Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)
The higher volume per stroke is nice if you encounter empty rollers, but they do pump harder.
Lavoy
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