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Michael S
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Dead 350B

Post by Michael S » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:40 am

A friend has a 350B that has been sitting for several years. We tried to load it onto a trailer and the tracks won't turn. The question is if trans is in neutral should the tracks turn or is there something else we need to do to load it?

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Re: Dead 350B

Post by Stan Disbrow » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:38 pm

Hi,

A crawler moves easier than a wheel tractor with the trans in neutral. Unless it has rusted pins in the bushings on the chains. Then it won't move at all.

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Re: Dead 350B

Post by Lavoy » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:44 pm

Brake bands might be rusted to the drums, back the adjustment bolt off and see if that helps.
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Re: Dead 350B

Post by CuttingEdge » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:20 pm

Stan Disbrow wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:38 pm
Hi,

A crawler moves easier than a wheel tractor with the trans in neutral. Unless it has rusted pins in the bushings on the chains. Then it won't move at all.

Stan
As a bulldozer logger, this has nearly killed me a dozen times. I kick the machine in neutral, go to unhook my chokers, and then the dozer starts to roll backwards. This is on a grade that my tractor or bulldozer would not roll back on.

My father once claimed a bulldozer could be jump started if left on a hill, and I said it couldn't. I lost that bet.
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Re: Dead 350B

Post by gregjo1948 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:09 am

Is the motor running or are you pushing/pulling it onto the trailer? Is there a reverser on it?
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Re: Dead 350B

Post by amos » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:47 am

Dozer "rolls" surprising easily when in neutral.Actually pretty dangerous if you're unaware. Lavoy was spot on and I also think your tracks are probably rusted at pins to bushings. Either get a bigger tractor to break it loose or a large winch( think tow truck). Once track rust bond and/or brake bands pop loose she'll roll.
Had issue with the 450C I just finished with track rails being stuck but once I got it operational and few runs in 2H got them pivoting on pins and bushings as they are supposed to.
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