Weld on bucket tooth shanks....advice

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Weld on bucket tooth shanks....advice

Post by 05victorylly » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:45 am

Any advice on welding on the shanks? I am planning on using 6011 or 6013 rods and was thinking around 6" spacing between each tooth.

Any advice would be much appreciated, I am not super experienced.
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Post by Paul Buhler » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:54 am

Just my opinion. I might tack them on using your 6011 since it is designed as a deep penetrating rod for cruddy metal, and then follow up with 7018 low hydrogen rod.
Generally in this kind of application, I just use 7018 rod, chamfer the weld site enough for good depth of weld, and make sure it's wire brushed clean for a good weld, then build up as appropriate.

I like the way 7018 rod flows too. Good luck. Others may have different ideas. Paul
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Post by jtrichard » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:56 pm

yes 7018 is the way to go
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Post by vtjoe » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:23 pm

if you only have an AC (buzz box) welder it will have to 7014 as 7018 is DC only if my old mind serves me correctly
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Post by 05victorylly » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:32 pm

"Hobart 7018 1/8 in. dia. Stick Electrodes are a low-hydrogen stick electrode, ideal for out-of-position welding and tacking. Not recommended for low voltage AC welders. Each rod is printed with its AWS classification for easy identification and meets or exceeds all AWS specifications. Packaged in a re-usable plastic container. For use in all positions on low, medium and high carbon steel 70,000 PSI tensile strength Runs on AC or DCEP (reverse) polarity 13 inch rod length"

I have an AC only Lincoln stick welder. The tomb stone style inexpensive ones. I assume I can use this with 7018 rods, I picked up some today.
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Post by hydrogeo » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:15 pm

I use 1/8" 7018 rods on my AC Lincoln tombstone without a problem. The biggest problem I have with them is I often forget they are not forgiving with moisture like 6011 or 6013 and you either have to use up what you have or dry them if they have been laying around. Good way to tick the wife off is to be caught trying to stuff a hand full of welding rods into the oven in the kitchen.:D

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Post by soffiler » Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:37 am

hydrogeo wrote: Good way to tick the wife off is to be caught trying to stuff a hand full of welding rods into the oven in the kitchen.:D
Been there, done that! When that inevitable kitchen remodel comes around, I plan to save the old oven (electric) and find a home for it in the shop right near the welder. The stovetop will come in handy for heating TSP solution to boil out carbs, and stuff like that, too.
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Post by gregjo1948 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:58 am

I use a toaster oven in the shop for my welding rod drying or heating anything I want. I have it setting on a shelf, taking up very little space.You can buy a new one from $40.00. gregjo1948
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Post by 57jd420 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:23 am

You can tack on the shanks with the 60 series rods and then do the remaining welds with the 7018 rods. Have rebuild numerous excavator buckets along with a bucket on a Cat 992, did it all with 7018.
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Post by JimG » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:39 am

If you have access to a good wire feed machine I would go for for some 1/16" M71 flux core wire. Just reverse the polarity on your machine, turn your gas on and go. Might take a few passes to get an eye for the way it flows but once you do you will get much better results in half the time especially if your a novice with a stick. Otherwise 7018 is the way to go. You can get away with 6013 also, its an easier rod to use horizontal but your going to lose some tencilstrength and your surface needs to be much cleaner.

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