need help with a 1010

afi · Post by **afi** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:35 pm

I changed the fuel lines on my 1010, everything seemed to go well I started it and it ran for about 20 minutes, pulled it back in the garage. tried to start it about a week later it started but wasn't running smooth then stalled out. It hasn't started since. I think it might be a pump problem but fuel is pumping, A pump repair shop said if I take off the timing plate and let the fuel drain it may start right up. this didn't work but as I was cranking it I noticed air bubbles comming out where the plate goes. anyone have any ideas. The fuel filters have been replaced, and I have a very small amount of smoke comming from the exhaust but will not turn over at all.

DukeofDeere · Post by **DukeofDeere** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:32 pm

Ok
Must be a diesel.
I'm guessing bleed em at the injectors.
Check your return fuel line for debris.

Duke

afi · Post by **afi** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:53 pm

Thank you, It is diesel and I just removed the fuel return line it is clear but when I crank the engine no fuel comes out the return

DukeofDeere · Post by **DukeofDeere** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:15 pm

Did you pre-fill the filters prior to install?
Check the tank to see if the out bound fuel line is plugged.

Duke

afi · Post by **afi** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:43 pm

i have fuel to the pump and at the injectors i think maybe just not enough pressure . sould there be a flow back to the tank ?

DukeofDeere · Post by **DukeofDeere** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:02 pm

Usually there is not much going back to the tank.
Should be some though.

Duke

gregjo1948 · Post by **gregjo1948** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:31 am

Could it be the flexible governor weight retainer ring in the injection pump? gregjo1948

DukeofDeere · Post by **DukeofDeere** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:42 am

Might be the plastic vibration dampener is going out in the pump.
May be if it has them the glow plugs are not cycling.

Duke

afi · Post by **afi** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:31 pm

OK Had the pump tested they said it was fine, they checked the shutoff lever and said it was fine, I have it all bleed out and cannot get it to turn over, put a small spray of starting fluid I thought it was gonna start but it was just the starting fluid. maybe my injectors are bad but all four at once?? anyone have any idea's

DukeofDeere · Post by **DukeofDeere** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:44 pm

Bleed at the injectors.....hum
Give it some more either
Bad fuel.

Glow plugs working?
Turning over quick enough? Jump it.
Check backlash on the valves?

Duke

Tigerhaze · Post by **Tigerhaze** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:03 pm

The gravity systems on 1010s and 2010s are self-bleeding- it may run rough but should kick over even with some trapped air. The fact that it ran for 20 minutes first indicates to me that rather than trapped air that there may be some sort of obstruction.

Are you in a cold area, and did the weather change when you let it sit- maybe the diesel has gelled? Does your 1010 have a glass fuel bowl ahaead of the filters that you can check? I have one on my 2010.

Did you do anything else when you changed the lines, like add a cleaner to the fuel tank? You may have mobilized some debris when you changed lines that is plugging an outlet or inlet to the tank.

Are you sure that glow plugs are still working? They are needed for a 1010 to start, especially in cold weather.

Does the starter still turn over rapidly? That alone can cause a 1010 diesel from starting if the compression isn't high enough.

If those aren't the reason, then it could be the pump but hate to start there first when you said a shop confirmed it worked. When you opened the timing window, did you see anything that looked like mouse turds? if so that was the vibration dampener ring.

There are a number of good troubleshooting posts by Jdemaris and others on fuel problems you should read before we throw more ideas out there-these are probably just a few of them:

http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... =1010+fuel

http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... =1010+fuel

http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... =1010+fuel

http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... ht=gravity

gregjo1948 · Post by **gregjo1948** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:31 pm

You should be very careful using starting fluid on a 1010. Do you have 2 shutoff valves on your fuel tank? Have you put air presure back thru the fuel lines to the tank? Pull #1 injector( leave attached to fuel line) and crank the engine over to see if it squirts fuel. gregjo1948

Tigerhaze · Post by **Tigerhaze** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:17 pm

Good point about the ether, and that is probably pretty informative that the glow plugs are not working as well.

DukeofDeere · Post by **DukeofDeere** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:40 pm

Cycle your glow plugs and then feel them if they are warm or hot.
Take a test light and hook one end to the none ground terminal of the battery and then put the probe on the glow plug with the wire removed. If it lights up the plug should be ok.
No light and the plug is shot. Replace it.

Duke

jtrichard · Post by **jtrichard** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:49 pm

for what ever reason you are not getting fuel to the pump!!!! i would say since you had the pump tested and its fine

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