Looking to get a backhoe loader...how much is my 2010 worth?

[05victorylly]

I am looking at picking up an 80's backhoe loader like a 310c or comparable. I may end up selling my 2010.

What do you think my machine is worth?? It runs nice and it is pretty tight.

new starter, battery, battery cables, new block heater, glow plugs, fuel filters and thermostat. Changed 4 hyd. hoses.

Starts up, idles and runs great. Tons of power, no leaks under carriage is 75% with only one track plate that is a little bent. Has a little blue smoke at idle, but clears up when warm and running. Steering clutches work perfectly, but the brake bands need adjustment...the right side brake band doesn't grab as well as the left. But both clutches hold perfect under power and release easily as they should. Tranny works great and hydraulics are smooth, fast and VERY powerful.

I bought the machine cheap, but I figure its worth $4000. Is that reasonable?

[DukeofDeere]

What attachments does it have?
Blade
6 way all hydraulic
Loader?
Where is it? (State)

Duke

[05victorylly]

Sorry forgot to mention that. Its a 1 yard loader. No other attachments. Located in Western MA (01223).

[05victorylly]

Its got a new muffler with rain cap now haha!

[DukeofDeere]

4k sounds fair.

Duke

[DukeofDeere]

These new generation machines are gaining interest with collectors!
I think 10-15% increase annually in value for a while.

Just my opinion,
Duke

[KenP]

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[Tigerhaze]

KenP brings up a good point- undercarriage on the 2010s is important to the value (especially if an early (pre-42,000) serial number) as new track links, sprockets, and front idlers are generally NLA.

Having said that, 2010 parts machine still can go for $1-$2K and unrestored 2010s in solid working condition can sell for as much as $5-$6K, so $4K is in that range. Anything more than $4K, people will start looking towards investing in the 350/450 models instead although local market conditions and crawler availability can affect that. Crawler value is inherently tied to condition and local market conditions with scrap prices setting the price floor.

[jtrichard]

his 2010 is post 42000 so it has 350 type tracks and i would say 4-5K is in the range i have seen some listed for much more and a few for less

[05victorylly]

under carriage is 75%

Based on the tightness of that left track and the position of the front idler, I would have guessed that undercarriage is less than 25%.
Have you actually measured the track or is it an "estimate"?

I mention it because track life is a big deal for many when shopping for a crawler... and the pix you posted doesn't help your sale.
Perhaps if you posted some measurements and other pix of sprockets, chains, etc. it would help.

Just my 2 cents.

When the picture was taken the track adjuster was stuck very very tight. I have not measured the tracks, but my father in-law who is very experienced in heavy equipment assured me that the sprockets, idlers chains and pins were in very good shape 70% +.

Could be off, but I think its pretty close to accurate. Tracks stay well tensioned and I have never thrown a track even on some nasty stuff.

[Tigerhaze]

Just to clarify a point Ken's made, the left track in the photo is way too tight. Running it that way will wear out undercarriage and final drive bearings faster.

As for percent wear, if you read archived posts on here there has been a lot of debate about the value of mentioning those percent wear numbers. To actually determine percent wear, there is a large number of measurements and determinations that have to be made to arrive at an accurate overall number that is reflective of all of the undercarriage components. Sometimes potions of undercarriage may be new while others are beyond their limits, but they wear as a set so overall could still be poor.

On your crawler, from what we can see on the photo, the front idler is pretty far out on the trackframe. That can be hard on the trackframe, especially with your roller guards missing to provide rigidity to the frame. The far adjustment also usually indicates significant internal pin/bushing wear, although loosening track up to specs may give a little room on the trackframe. There is actually a simple measurement across five pins to determine pin/bushing wear as well as rail height. Your rail height seems OK but it does appear that your first bottom roller flange may be hitting the pin boss so roller wear is a potential concern. Track pads appear to be fairly worn but still useable, and I have seen worse like on mine . Hard to tell on the sprocket, but does not appear not new or lightly worn. These things add up on a 2010, and some parts are NLA.

Our point isn't to pick on the guess of 70%, but to educate that stating that number is of little value at best and may misrepresent overall condition and you are better off doing some simple measurements to be able to more accurately represent your machine. If you find someone new to crawlers, they won't know the difference but it is your reputation to consider if then then have a crawler mechanic look at it.

There is a guy on here (screename Notmeu) that is selling track gauges so you can get accurate wear measurements- I just got mine in the mail today.

[KenP]

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[Lavoy]

As a general rule when I see someone post percentage for undercarriage, I divide it by two, and normally you are close. I continually have people ask me a percentage on undercarriage of a given crawler I might have for sale, and I simply don't give it. It is just a guess, so why give it, it means something different to everyone.
Lavoy

[05victorylly]

Understood guys, I will get a gauge and or measure across pins the get a better idea. Was not trying to be misleading, I guess I am just making too much of a guess like others have said.

Thanks for the advice!