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Post by gregjo1948 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:59 am

Did JD offer an all hydraulic 6 way blade on the 420C model? Thanks, gregjo1948
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Re: 6 way

Post by notmeu » Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:11 am

gregjo1948 wrote:Did JD offer an all hydraulic 6 way blade on the 420C model? Thanks, gregjo1948
I'm not 100% sure but I don't think I seen any all hydraulic 6 way blades until the 350's came out. I would say custom made is the only option for a 420!
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Post by vtjoe » Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:31 am

I think I remember that someone on this forum posted pictures of one that they made up and it was really nice..... anyone else recall?
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Post by Lavoy » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:24 am

No, first factory Deere 6 way was on the 440. If fact I have heard that it was the first factory 6 way of any of the manufacturers.
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Post by Paul Buhler » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:24 am

notmeu is being modest. Take a look at his.
http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... php?t=7522

Willyr also fabricated a 6way blade as I remember and posted pictures of it.

OT: I noticed that my house keeping at Photobucket has caused a link problem. I'll try to fix it soon. Paul
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Post by Willyr » Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:08 am

Yes I did create a 6 way. I could do it again if some one wanted to pay for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz4sAynD2mo
some of the construction pics can be found here.
http://s88.photobucket.com/user/Downeas ... Deere/420c
By the way. I went through almost 50 pounds of 3/16" 6010 welding rod for the conversion.
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Post by notmeu » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:32 am

Lavoy wrote:No, first factory Deere 6 way was on the 440. If fact I have heard that it was the first factory 6 way of any of the manufacturers.
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Lavoy, Did the 440 come with a full hydraulic 6 way or did it have the manual pins? Just curious, I never seen one. Willy I know what your talking about, I went thru a good 40 pounds of .035 wire building mine!
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Re: 6 way

Post by Tigerhaze » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:01 pm

notmeu wrote:
gregjo1948 wrote:Did JD offer an all hydraulic 6 way blade on the 420C model? Thanks, gregjo1948
I'm not 100% sure but I don't think I seen any all hydraulic 6 way blades until the 350's came out. I would say custom made is the only option for a 420!
FYI, my 2010 dozer has a factory 6-way hydraulic blade (model just after the 440 but before the straight 350/450).
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Post by Lavoy » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:18 pm

Yes, model 64 hyd 6 way blade. Manual 6 way blade was the model 63.
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Re: 6 way

Post by notmeu » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:39 pm

gregjo1948 wrote:Did JD offer an all hydraulic 6 way blade on the 420C model? Thanks, gregjo1948
Well gregjo1948, to answer your question it sounds like a no to me! That is, not a factory option! Unless you get that welder out!!!!
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Post by gregjo1948 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:51 am

Next ? Would an all hydraulic 6 way from an early 440 fit to a 420 without fabrication? Thanks, gregjo1948
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Re: 6 way

Post by notmeu » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:44 pm

gregjo1948 wrote:Next ? Would an all hydraulic 6 way from an early 440 fit to a 420 without fabrication? Thanks, gregjo1948
I can't speak for how a 440 6-way would mount up to a 420 but I would think there would be a little fabrication. For example when I made the 6 way on my 420 I had to get every ounce of fluid out of my existing hydraulic tank that I could so I did not run short, So I installed a 10" extension pipe onto my filler tube so I could get a little more fluid into the tank. It worked out great, except for when I would climb a steep hillside or do more of a pushing the limits of gravity move I would get some fluid coming out of the filler tube. But I would think a 440 tank would be bigger and it was probably in a different location than the 420????
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Post by Lavoy » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:45 pm

Mounts are completely different, major fab work to say the least. No place to mount the rub blocks is another problem.
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Post by Willyr » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:35 am

If you haul it to Maine I would be more than happy to make the conversion for you. I still have some of the 3" od 1" id structural tubing left over.

I need something to do, so if you didnt mind some one else working on it for 6 months, it wouldnt be a prob for me. I can deliver yet I get 50 cents a mile.
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Post by gregjo1948 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:17 am

Lavoy-- I think the Internaional T340/ TD340 might have had a fully hydraulic 6 way. They came out about '58 '59 and would have been about the same time as JD 440. Whom do suppose stole the idea? Maybe the 310 Case. :lol: gregjo1948
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