steering clutch issue
steering clutch issue
I just bought an old 40-c. I haven't got the shop manual for it yet. It usually takes a couple weeks to come in the mail. It runs great except the steering clutch wont disengage. I've searched a lot of threads, but most are about the dozer not wanting to turn. Mine wont stop turning. Tomorrow is going to warm up to about 50F. I was going to try some things. Its just difficult to get to a tree to push when it just goes in circles.
any recommendations?
any recommendations?
Something is odd, sounds more like a drivetrain issue than clutch.
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No resistance in a lever normally means the clutch discs are swollen and the pressure plate fingers are crushed down. Or, something is broken in the linkage. Either way, tear down is required.
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- gregjo1948
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I 'm thinking the pressure plate springs may have failed which would give you no resistance on the lever. It would be as if the clutch was already applied. Probably time to tear apart. gregjo1948
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davidn3;
You did not identify if the lever has no resistance on the side where the track is pulling or on the opposite side of the crawler. If you are talking about the side where the track IS pulling, it indicates that the steering clutch pack is not releasing on that side. What impact does the steering lever on the opposite side have on its track? Gil
You did not identify if the lever has no resistance on the side where the track is pulling or on the opposite side of the crawler. If you are talking about the side where the track IS pulling, it indicates that the steering clutch pack is not releasing on that side. What impact does the steering lever on the opposite side have on its track? Gil
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Trying to understand! Are both tracks driving and you can only steer one way? gregjo1948
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As gregjo1948 mentioned, it would help if you would restate your exact situation. It might be easier if you would use "right" side and "left" side.
You may understand already, but it is important that you understand that the steering lever activates not just the track brake but also the clutch. When you pull the lever back, first it operates the clutch to disconnect power to the track. As you pull the lever back further it applies the brake. You do NOT want to adjust it so the brake is applied without the clutch disengaging. Gil
You may understand already, but it is important that you understand that the steering lever activates not just the track brake but also the clutch. When you pull the lever back, first it operates the clutch to disconnect power to the track. As you pull the lever back further it applies the brake. You do NOT want to adjust it so the brake is applied without the clutch disengaging. Gil
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Pull the cover under the seat on the bad side and see if the linkage is moving. You can pull the other side to compare. If the linkage moves, then pull the bung on the front of the final on the bad side and see if the TO bearing is free to slide. If you need to use a socket to adjust (1/2") make sure you tape the socket to the extension so the socket won't fall off. If the TO slides clear of the clutch fingers (will spin) then pull the final. If not, adjust or free it up (may still have to pull the final).
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