PTO Overrun

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PTO Overrun

Post by dr1zsk1 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:35 pm

Since the PTO is tied through the transmission on the 420, should I get a PTO overun device to make sure it doesn't cause problems using a rotary mower?

I know that I can just pull the steering clutches back but what y'all think about this?

How do I know if I have the continuous running PTO or not?

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Post by DukeofDeere » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:26 am

You will need an over-running clutch.
As far as I know only the wheeled tractors had the continuous pto.
Those have a 2 stage clutch in a 5 speed trans. And not all 5 speeds were continuous pto.

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Post by Stan Disbrow » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:12 am

Hi,

According to the Deere manuals, all crawlers are equipped with a live PTO. By pulling on both steering levers. Honest! It is in the book! :P

I use an overrun on the PTO shaft myself.

Only certain wheel tractor models came with the 2 stage clutch pedal. It was an option on most of them. It was never an option on the crawlers, nor on any wheel tractor equipped with a reverser.

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Post by DukeofDeere » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:36 pm

John Deere live PTO is driven by the transmission.
John Deere continuous is driven by the engine.
The other brand of red tractors calls continuous PTO live PTO.

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Post by NNAATZ » Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:55 pm

yes have a orc for the mower, but yes, its just fine to use the steering clutches as hand clutches for them "live power" momentes

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Post by Stan Disbrow » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:22 pm

Hi,

And, don't forget 'independent' with its own control and clutch! :P

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Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)

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Post by gus » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:08 pm

Where's a good source for the over run clutch??

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Post by gregjo1948 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:21 am

Just type in-- pto over run clutch-- in your search. gregjo1948
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Post by DukeofDeere » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:06 am

gus wrote:Where's a good source for the over run clutch??
Any tractor supply store.
Here we have TSC or Family Farm and Home.
$65- $70

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Post by Stan Disbrow » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:28 am

Hi,

The store names change by region, but they all carry such. You can also get at any color new equipment dealer, but would cost more at one of those of course.

Also, you can use our local supply store here in NC, as they do a large online business. Agri-Supply:

http://www.agrisupply.com/Over-Riding-C ... sid=&eid=/

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Useta Have: '58 JD 420c 5-roller w/62 inside blade
Useta Have: '78 JD350C w/6310 outside blade
Useta Have: '68 JD350, '51 Terratrac GT-25
Have: 1950 M, 2005 x495, 2008 5103 (now known as 5045D)

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