JD 2010 Crawler Clutch/Transmission Issues

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JD 2010 Crawler Clutch/Transmission Issues

Post by muddbucket » Tue May 06, 2014 1:12 pm

This is my first post on this forum but I just recently bought a jd 2010 crawler loader. The machine is in decent shape overall. Hour meter Says 1801 Hours who knows though!

Either way here are the issues at hand.

1 Clutch pedal is incredibly difficult to depress.
2 Once clutch is forced down (disengaged) it will not spring back up under its own power, Meaning I have to manually grab a hold of the clutch pedal and pull up on it hard.
3 The machine will not go into gear with the clutch depressed fully
4 I can start the machine in the way up gear position (selector all the way up) and then from that point I can take the HLR shifter and put it in L or H or R and all three gears work and the tractor moves fairly decent.
5 While braking hard to steer either left or right the tractor will turn alittle and the track on the inside of the turn will lock up and outter track will not have enough engagement to spin to turn the tractor. If I let off the left hand steering slightly both tracks engage and I begin to move again.
6 Once I leave the upper most gear selection and go into anything past the neutral selection and then try and re engage the HLR shifter the tractor does not move. After this has happened I cannot go back into first or low gear without grinding the gears or shutting her down and putting the gear selector back into the upper most position with the HLR in neutral. Then starting the machine back up and then of course moving the HLR shifter into L the tractor moves again.

To me this seems as though the clutch is never disengaging? Does that seem to make sense? Any help would be much appreciated!

I hope at least some of that made sense to someone! I will post some pictures here as well.


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http://groganspeer.com/images/Hourmeter.jpg
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Thanks in advance! And sorry for the quality of the shots will get better ones soon.[/url]
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Post by jtrichard » Tue May 06, 2014 5:45 pm

thats NOT a clutch per-say it is a hydraulic disconnect about the same as putting the HLR shifter in neutral ..... i would say oil the upper pivot that should help loosen it up ..... i sent you a PM check it out ps you might want to try photobucket it might resize your pics so they arent so wide ...here is link to my loader http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... =2010+pics
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Post by muddbucket » Tue May 06, 2014 8:42 pm

Ok so I did as you instructed and oiled the heck outta the upper pivot. No luck!!! Soooo i decided to drop the under armor plates, man is that skid shield heavy! once i dropped the shield i was able to remove 4 bolts and access a panel between the engine and transmission. It was full of mouse house remains. I pulled what seemed to be two bird skeletons outta that mess.
Either way spent the past three hours cleaning that area out and was able to PB Blaster everything inside which ultimately freed up the clutch. Now the clutch moves freely!

Still have the same problems described above. Also the clutch engages in the last 1/16th of an inch. I have a manual on the way and would assume there is detailed instructions on how to adjust?

I will check your PM now....

Also was curious if you could go into more detail on the hydraulic disconnect? It does almost seem to be some type of issues with pressure or something. Who knows what else Ill find living inside of this thing lol

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Post by jtrichard » Tue May 06, 2014 10:26 pm

if you pull the right clutch and it starts to turn then the left track stops and vise versa then the powered side is slipping in the steering clutch pack... see if you have any free play in your steering levers same principle as a truck clutch you should have like 1 1/2" to 2" free pull/pedal
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Post by Tigerhaze » Wed May 07, 2014 8:46 am

muddbucket wrote:I have a manual on the way and would assume there is detailed instructions on how to adjust?
Yes, the manual has a detailed procedure with photos on how to adjust each steering clutch/brake assembly. You need to follow the procedure in the order it is described to get it right or you may get premature application of the brake before the clutch is disengaged. Improper adjustment could be causing symptom #5.
muddbucket wrote:Also was curious if you could go into more detail on the hydraulic disconnect? It does almost seem to be some type of issues with pressure or something.
The function is as JTrichard describes- the disconnect lever disengages the HLR from the engine. It was installed to allow easier engine starting in cold weather by allowing the engine to rotate with less load. Because the lever disengages the HLR it also disengages the loader hydraulics if you have a rear-mounted Cessna pump driven by the rear shaft. it is only meant to be used momentarily and is "on/off".

You can test the HLR pressures using a gauge- the procedure to do so is in the service manual and is discussed in other threads on this board.

My experience is that the gear selector grinds on mine as well if I try to shift when running- I hardly ever use it because 1st/2nd using the HLR is plenty fast for what I do. The only time I use the gear selector is for the "tow" gear if needing to pull it.
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