JD350 loader counterweights weight??

[kilohertz]

Trying to figure out if I need to upgrade my 14,000lb trailer if I am going to move my machine anywhere. Short of removing these weights and taking them to the scales...

Does anyone know what these weigh? I have 3 plates sitting on an inverted plate of sorts. If I remove these, will there be any serious detrimental affects on the front idler? I assume I won't be able to lift the 3500+ lbs the bucket is rated for without them?

The published weight specs indicate 11,570 lbs for the crawler with bucket (not 4 way) but the picture in the manual doesn't show counterweights or ROPS and I assume are not included in the 11,570 number.

Thanks guys,

Paul

[NWJD fan]

I believe the 11570 ld weight is all up with counterweight installed. Google murphyused.com. They have hundreds (thousands?) of factory brochures scanned and available to view. You should find your machine there and I believe it says the 350 loader was delivered with an 800 ld counterweight. Going through the same issue as you. My 14000 ld trailer is good for 11,600 pound max payload and is about all my Dodge 1 ton (single rear wheels) is rated to pull. Bigger trailer would be better but it also needs a bigger truck to use it effectively.

[Tigerhaze]

I believe the usual plate weight for a 2010 counterweight rack is 200 pounds a piece. If true for a 350, 3 plates plus the bracket would be close to 800 pounds.

I have used my 2010 crawler loader without counterweights. It's not recommended but can be done- basically if you have a full bucket you can still lift but it gets very front heavy so it gets harder to steer with little weight on the rear and obviously you would want to keep the load as close to the ground as possible. It does put a lot of strain on the front idlers but for an occasional thing that you don't also try to navigate hilly terrain and keep the bucket low you should be OK.

Safety and rated payloads aside, going with a trailer rated for more than 14,000 lbs GTW plus a 1 ton pickup will put your right at the 26,000 lb GCVW which above that tips you into the CDL requirements unless you have a state (intrastate only) exemption due to farm use, etc. However if that is not a concern a dual tandem or triple single gooseneck rated for 18,000 to 21,000 GTW would be safer. I had my 2010 loader with backhoe attachment delivered on a dual tandem and 3/4 ton SRW pickup and it managed, although I am glad it wasn't me driving through the hilly Ozarks with it

[NickMartin]

You can do a quick estimation with the dimensions if known.
1 cubic foot of steel is about 490#
1 cubic foot of cast iron is about 450#

And I'll second the above about hauling per your state dot.
In NC the trailer weight cannot exceed 10k without CDL's regardless of the truck capacity and total combo cannot exceed the 26k limit. You can haul on a tandem rollback no issue but get a trailer involved and you'll get stopped and checked.

[jtrichard]

YES TIGER those are the same weights as our 2010s JD #8255 CU and they do weigh #200 each

[kilohertz]

Awesome! Thanks guys. I too have the 8255C weights on this machine. I also found those brochures on the Murphy site. Great info there. Thanks.

Cheers