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440ic help

Post by Gordo » Tue May 03, 2011 5:00 pm

Recent purchase was a 1959 440 crawler (detroit power) with loader. I have not been able to locate a service manual yet but I do have a parts manual. 1st problem is milky transmission oil, unsure of why,(I know water) but I would like to know capacity (5speed) and what type of oil. 2nd problem Reverser only works in the forward position, when you pull it back it sort of tries to go but doesn't. Does the reverser have an adjustment and does it have its own oil or does it use the transmission oil?
Everything else seems pretty good shape.
Thanks, Gordo

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Post by JD440ICD2006 » Tue May 03, 2011 5:15 pm

The JD service manual is worth every penny you pay. It answers these and most other questions that you will have. (be sure you get the 440ICD and NOT the 440IC manual)
Congrats on joining the unique "440C" owner's club.
My 440 ICD is my favorite due to Detroit Diesel engine.
Not too many good ones left, and they are by far the top of the heap and the last 2 cylinder crawlers built by JD.
1959 JD 440ICD w/64 Power Angle Tilt Blade
1959 JD 440ICD w/63 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 440IC w/602 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 730D W SE (many options)
1950 JD M S w/M-20 Mower
1952 JD M W
1955 FORD 640 (burns the most fuel)

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Post by Swawpy » Wed May 04, 2011 7:44 am

The trans uses any 80-90wt and fills to the plug at your right heel when sitting on machine. The reverser uses hygard and fills via a bung on left side of reverser housing...I think it calls for an inch below the threads. There is an adjustment outlined in the manual that was simple enough but I cant remember the procedure well enough to guide you through it. You'll def want the manual and is needed for other crucial adj procedures as well- like clutch/steering/brakes.

Good luck!

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Post by Lavoy » Wed May 04, 2011 9:44 am

By pulling it back and it tried to go, do you mean you are trying to do this with the clutch engaged? If so, it has likley stripped the tabs off of the clutch discs in the reverse clutch. The reverser is never to be shifted with the engine clutch engaged.
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Post by Gordo » Wed May 04, 2011 4:12 pm

Thanks for the help guys, as far as the reverser, I pushed the clutch pedal in, pulled the lever back and slowly released the pedal and the machine tried to move but didn't, no noises or grinding. Is that the proper way to engage the reverser?

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Post by JD440ICD2006 » Wed May 04, 2011 4:22 pm

That is the correct way. In fact, the machine must be completely stopped and clutch fully depressed prior to changing reverser in either direction to prevent possible damage.
If the ears are the problem, it could have been done by a previous owner.
1959 JD 440ICD w/64 Power Angle Tilt Blade
1959 JD 440ICD w/63 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 440IC w/602 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 730D W SE (many options)
1950 JD M S w/M-20 Mower
1952 JD M W
1955 FORD 640 (burns the most fuel)

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Post by Lavoy » Wed May 04, 2011 8:34 pm

When you shift the reverser to reverse, do you get a good "snap" on teh lever? If not, could be something as simple as an adjustment.
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