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Hey guys I'm back for more info on a 450c

Post by moose80cj7 » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:51 am

The first thing I have is a leak on the right side and I believe thats where all my tranny fluid is going. Could that be in the final drive area. I don't have a clue what I'm doing here if you couldn't tell. How big of a job is it to get to the final drive (if thats the problem) to get it fixed. One more thing what kind of tranny fluid should I use in it. I don't want to have to buy the HIGH Dollar JD fluid. And the same with the hydraulic fluid. Yes I need lots of help with this beast. Thanks in advance.
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Post by np205 » Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:39 pm

Not sure about your transmission leak.

My 450B service manual states JD 303 fluid or equivalent for transmission and final drives.

32 quarts for transmission.
6.5 quarts for each final.

303 tractor fluid is about $24 for 5 gallons here at a parts distributor.

Would advise getting a JD service manual for your machine.

Hope this helps.

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Post by FL450B » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:14 pm

SOME 450 WITH HLR TRANSMISSIONS NEED THE FRONT INPUT SHAFT SEAL REPLACED YOU WILL SEE A LEAK ON THE SKID PLATE UNDER THE
TRANSMISSION YOU WILL NEED TO PULL OUT THE MOTOR TO DO THIS JOB PARTS ARE ABOUT 75.00 BUCK IF IT WHERE THE OIL IS COMING FROM NO A HARD JOB BUT LOTS OF PARTS MUST BE REMOVED TO DO THIS YOU NEED TO GET SERVICE MANUAL IT VERY HELPFULL GOOD LUCK CARY EMAIL ME FOR MORE INFO

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Post by moose80cj7 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:29 am

Thanks guys for the responses. I have been on vacation and I'm just getting back. Where is the best place to get the service manual? I have not had any luck finding one. I do have the owners manual but it is worthless. Sounds like a BIG job not sure if I can pull that one off. When I get the chance to work on it I'll let ya'll know how its going. Thanks again.
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Post by cinok » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:36 am

http://www.deere.com/en_US/cfd/construc ... index.html
Thats the site for John Deere you can buy manuals on thier in differernt formats. The cheapest is to down load it and print sections as you need them and the print themagain when they get to greasy :lol:

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Post by Dane » Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:13 am

Where is the leak coming from? It is possible that you have a bad bearing which will knock out the seal jn the steering clutch housing where the final drive attaches. There is no gasket between the final drive housing and the steering clutch housing so if the seal goes it will leak between the two when the oil comes out of the clutch housing.

If that is the case, split the track, take off the final drive, put in new bearing and seal, silicon the living daylights out of the joint between the final drive and the steering clutch housing, put the steering cluth back on, put the tracks back together and away you go. Oh ya, forgot you have to drop the skid pan and remove the counterweight too.

Best shot is to get a service manual because there are a couple of other wrinkles in it too.

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Post by moose80cj7 » Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:56 am

The leak is coming from the right rear side at the back of the track. Not sure if that helps. I'll get a picture and post it. I really don't want to have to get that deep in repairing this guy. I don't have the equipment to do that kind of work. Thanks for all the info on the manuals. Downloading it sounds pretty good. I have done that on a few manuals and it seems to work better for me.
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Post by moose80cj7 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:23 pm

OK so how do you put a pic on here?
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Post by Lavoy » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:12 pm

The process is described in the show and tell section, you will need to host the pics on a third party website. Recently someone hacked the site due to hosting pics on here, so it is no longer allowed.
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Post by Tigerhaze » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:48 pm

Lavoy wrote:The process is described in the show and tell section, you will need to host the pics on a third party website.
Here was my post on how to use Photobucket to host pics:

http://www.jdcrawlers.com/messageboard/ ... highlight=
(1) JD Straight 450 crawler dozer with manual outside blade; (2) JD 2010 diesel crawler loaders; (1) JD 2010 diesel dozer with hydraulic 6-way blade; (2) Model 50 backhoe attachments, misc. other construction equipment

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Post by moose80cj7 » Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:12 am

Thanks for the Info on photobucket I'll give it a try. If you guys wouldn't mind telling me what type Tranny and hydraulic fluid do you use? I can't afford the JD Hy gard and would like to know a cheaper version. Thanks in advance.
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