General help and support for your Lindeman through 2010 John Deere crawler
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RogerW
- 40C crawler

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by RogerW » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:06 pm
Got started evaluating my new to me 2010 diesel dozer project that I recently acquired. I knew it had some water in the oil issues but it would start. Drained oil and added fresh. I would not let it run for no longer than two minutes as I knew something wasn't quite right. Well that something turned into an extra hole in the block. Motor went from sounding reasonably O.K to boat anchor in seconds. I had planned on a rebuild anyway but I wanted to evaluate the blade and steering clutches while it ran. Bad idea!
I have only had the dozer for one day and this happens.
Now I need a usable 2010 block and rebuild parts or perhaps someone has a good used complete 2010 diesel motor.

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Lavoy
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by Lavoy » Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:38 pm
Call Pete's tractor salvage at Anamoose just in case. If not, maybe Meyer brothers in Aberdeen.
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jdman
- 430 crawler

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by jdman » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:49 am
What Caused The Hole???
Aweful High On The Block For The Rod ???
Rod Would Have Had To Go Threw The Sleeve Assy. First...
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JD440ICD2006
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by JD440ICD2006 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:56 am
May be possible to weld it back. A place named "MUGGY WELD" sells special rods of materials that will do it.
I am curious too as to what made the hole.
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JD430C
- 1010 crawler

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by JD430C » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:44 am
Hi, I am going to guess the same thing happened to it that happened to my 2010. The rod bolts came out and the crank bumped the rod into the block. Mine did it on No 2 around the same height on the block. If you have the piece I would send the block out to check for other cracks. IF its fine I would weld it back up. I would have on mine if I had the piece. Its gonna be hard to find a crack free 2010 diesel block.
Andrew
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claude murwin
- 420 crawler

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by claude murwin » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:58 pm
Is the block the same as a 2010 wheel tractor? might have one
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Tiny Crawler
- 430 crawler

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by Tiny Crawler » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:14 pm
You can try this stuff, if it isn't in a critical area, I got a boat from a guy that didn't winterize and the water jacket cracked, tried welding but the crack kept going, talked to the mechanic at the local marina and he suggested this stuff, it is like steal. and it sealed the outside of the block.
http://www.marinetex.com/marinetexepoxyputty.html
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Tigerhaze
- 350 crawler

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by Tigerhaze » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:34 am
claude murwin wrote:Is the block the same as a 2010 wheel tractor? might have one
I believe the crawlers and wheel tractors use the same blocks, as long as you are comparing like fuel types (i.e. diesel to diesel).
(1) JD Straight 450 crawler dozer with manual outside blade; (2) JD 2010 diesel crawler loaders; (1) JD 2010 diesel dozer with hydraulic 6-way blade; (2) Model 50 backhoe attachments, misc. other construction equipment
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Lavoy
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by Lavoy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:02 pm
One of the members on here and I just had a discussion about this. Tractor parts manual shows at least 3 different block depending on serial number, crawler shows one regardless of serial number. Doesn't mean they won't work, but by application, there is a difference.
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fletcher
- MC crawler

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by fletcher » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:02 pm
308 stainless rods work good on cast and are cheaper than cast rods. Be sure to preheat.
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H-D
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by H-D » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:09 pm
Don't you have to drill the ends of the cracks to keep them from running? Been a LONG time since I had any exposure to a welded block. Back then I remember the pre-heating (about 2" at a time) was critical & seems like the rod was nickel?
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fletcher
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by fletcher » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:48 pm
yes I recomend drilling. Your 308 stainless will get you the high nickel. On your preheat Heating out 2" from your weld will also relieve some of the stress you put on it. I like to post heat as well. The slower you let it cool the better.
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H-D
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by H-D » Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:21 pm
Thank you fletcher The ol' minds not totally gone, just circling the drain.
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Stretch
- 440 crawler

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by Stretch » Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:14 pm
I have a good block if you're interested.
Stretch
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