My other John Deere (60) Picture Heavy

[Willyr]

As some of you know. I am no longer a crawler owner. I have tried another forum yet there is too little response there. (AntiqueTractorForum)

Unless Lavoy tells me to leave I will apprise you of my headaches here. LOL

I traded my 420c for a 60, first pic is what I was willing to trade for.



At the time he said he would get it down to me and assured me it did run.



When I looked at it (no it did not run then) I was told all it needed was a distributor cap and the fan was a little loose.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

It arrived to home here and I found out he had cannibalized it. UGH!
He had stolen the rockshaft arms. Points were missing, dead battery. Most of the bolts were removed, I mean what the hell! Talk about cheap!
The wife told me that he (the former owner) was no mechanic.

So here goes the next adventure.



Like I said above, alot of bolts were missing. More like he started to work on it and never kept them handy to give back to me.
So here is a video I did of the fan being loose.



Well time to take it down to repair the fan. Here is how the fan looks from a exploded parts list.



After 8 hours of work with my good friend Greg we are at this stage here. Yes the temp on the wall reads a balmy 28F.



The friction discs are gone. Item #6 in the exploded view. So here are the other parts to replace. Fan drive cups, and the friction plate on one end.







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Where I am now. Well I am waiting on the parts to come to my local JD dealer. I found out the former owner had no knowledge of how to wire something.



He told me he rewired it after the OEM switch failed. So he put a toggle switch in that separated juice from battery
to the alternator. He also wired the ignition to the alternator and wondered why his tractor would not shut off when he threw the switch.
The way he would stop the engine was to unplug the ballast resistor. He also could not understand why the lights didnt work.
They are wired to each other only, with no power from the switch or the battery. He cut the wires (rather than unscrew the terminals)
that lead to the ammeter and dash light.

Sigh, I do like a challenge.


I do like any and all suggestions. I also hope Lavoy lets me keep posting this here on this better board.

[JD440ICD2006]

Not only is he no mechanic, he is not honest either. There is difference in not knowing, and out and out lying to sell or trade a piece of equipment.

I know you will turn this around and make a great tractor out of it. That does not let him off the hook for being a low life.

Have fun, the 60 is a great tractor!

[Willyr]

I could not sleep last night. So since today the tractor might be going back together I thought I would get some little stuff cleaned and painted. Stuff like the fan blade, fan shroud, fan support, some of the radiator The stuff that shows. The splines were damaged where the fan had spun, so I spent a good hour with a mill file smoothing out the damage. At least now the pulley can easily slide from one end of the shaft to the other. Also applied never seize to the shaft.

I have a brand new battery in the tractor now. Just for giggles I hit the starter pedal with my hand. There is a click noise when I press down, but no whirring of the starter. Oh joy, more work. At least the forward lights work. LOL that is the bright side of it?

Can some one tell me how hard it is on gas? I want to use it as a people mover this summer during some of the fairs for the club in my area. Just curious.

[Willyr]

Oh one other thing. The repair manual said you have to remove the fan shaft to press off the retainer. My friend Greg and I were able to use 2 three inch "C" clamps (clamping the fan and on the pulley with the handle of the clamp towards the rear). Took no time at all. The retainers were rusted and took a bit more work.

[JD440ICD2006]

One of the advantages of the two cylinder engine is low fuel burn. I am not certain what a properly tuned 60 would burn, but my 730D under load (1,125 RPM) will burn just over 2 gallons an hour.
The gas models burn more due to the carb not being as efficient as the diesel high pressure injectors spraying a metered amount of fuel.

[roadbuilder]

I think I read in the forum rules that if you reach 356 posts before you sell your crawler, and are in good standing, you are considered a lifetime member.
Seriously, not seeing your username on here would seem strange. Good luck with your new Deere.

[Lavoy]

I would be totally shocked if you can't run a full day on a 1/2 tank of gas using it is a people mover.
Post all you want, no problem. If you need any other parts, I do have access to a lot of new tractor parts as well.
Lavoy

[Willyr]

LOL how much for some rock shaft arms? Yeah I know, there is a listing on Ebay for $45 each.



At this time I am struggling to put the fan back together. Almost tempted to put threads on the end with a washer and tighten a nut.

But I am going to wait till the bearing splitters arrive from tool king. Figure if I use some threaded rod I can clamp it better.

Can anyone here tell me what "TL" and "FL" are for on the new ignition light? I assume that the TL is for Tail Light. But the FL???? Sorry now flood or fog lights.

[Willyr]

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[JD440ICD2006]

TL is the little bulb under the red lens, FL is the big bulb, both in the tail light assembly.

[Willyr]

So here is the planned dash wiring diagram. The #1 is supposed to be blue, the marker I used looks almost black.



I dont have the cig lighter and dont plan to put one in. No need for it that I see, except for lighting fireworks?

[Willyr]

At this time I have removed the intake / exhaust manifold. I thought it was merely to replace a missing exhaust gasket. What I found was that the prior owner had burned the area so much that there was about 0.125" combined that was missing from the two surfaces. The manifold is already at another shop for planing ($50) and the head is on the way there today. I will see if I can get pics if the manifold before, if it has not been planed when I get there with the head. The shop said they would remove the broken bolts (2) for $20 each.

Hey Lavoy? Do you know if there is anything wrong with running that tractor with the exhaust diverter missing? Mine is and I am just wondering if it is safe to keep running it that way.

I also found I had to replace the headlights. Money has quickly run out. Since new replacements to repair prior owner damage would have run $90+, I had to find an alternative. After Googling alternatives I settled for 2 baja 100w Halogen lights from Walmart (online). They have nice chrome lights (bulbs and chrome shells) for just under $15 each. Granted they are about 1" larger in diameter. It wont allow me to win any awards, but hey, at least I will be able to see whats in front of me.

[JD440ICD2006]

Exhaust gasket blow outs on these were fairly common. If they are left unfixed, the hot gases will etch gaps in the flat surfaces as you described. I have seen a number of them this way.
I guess it was under the farmer's rule, "if it is still running, don't fix it."
The fun thing about this hobby is we can put whatever we choose on our tractors. If "they" don't like it, "they" are always welcome to buy me what they want on there. LOL

[Willyr]

So here are the pictures of the head and the manifold.

[Lavoy]

To the best of my knowledge, they can not or should not be run without the diverter in place. They are not expensive, no reason to do so anyway.
Lavoy