JD 440 ICD intake hose T 11584 T
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JD 440 ICD intake hose T 11584 T
Anyone know a source for the air intake hose that goes to the top of the blower intake on a GM 2-53? It is smaller on one end (size of intake pipe from air cleaner) and larger (size of the top of the blower intake) on the other. It makes a 90 degree turn in the middle.
Part number is T 11584 T. It is called an "elbow reducing hose".
Part number is T 11584 T. It is called an "elbow reducing hose".
1959 JD 440ICD w/64 Power Angle Tilt Blade
1959 JD 440ICD w/63 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 440IC w/602 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 730D W SE (many options)
1950 JD M S w/M-20 Mower
1952 JD M W
1955 FORD 640 (burns the most fuel)
1959 JD 440ICD w/63 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 440IC w/602 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 730D W SE (many options)
1950 JD M S w/M-20 Mower
1952 JD M W
1955 FORD 640 (burns the most fuel)
Okay, following up on a really old post. Did you or anyone ever come up with a replacement? It seems this crops up once in a while, and if still no source, I am thinking of trying to get them made somehow.
Lavoy
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Wonder if some of the silicon elbows for turbo systems might work if you could find the right diameter for both ends? You can get them in a pretty blue color also. LOL
Bryce
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But, many electrons were terribly bothered.
440IC/602, 2-440ICD/831 MM UBU-LP, 445N-LP, 445E-LP, BIG MO 400-M, 4 Star-LP M5-D, M5-LP, M602-LP, M670-LP, G900-LP, G900-D, G1000 Vista-LP Case 580CK
But, many electrons were terribly bothered.
440IC/602, 2-440ICD/831 MM UBU-LP, 445N-LP, 445E-LP, BIG MO 400-M, 4 Star-LP M5-D, M5-LP, M602-LP, M670-LP, G900-LP, G900-D, G1000 Vista-LP Case 580CK
I found one manufacturer that makes elbows, but nothing in the correct size so far.
Lavoy
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Bryce said ........Wonder if some of the silicon elbows for turbo systems might work if you could find the right diameter for both ends? You can get them in a pretty blue color also. LOL..............................................BLUE on a DEERE? blue is for them 4 letter word tractors F_ _ _
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Has anyone ever tried to "vulcanize" their damaged one?
Mine is cracked on the underside of the 90 but thankfully not clear through.
I haven't had any luck finding replacements of these either Lavoy.
Mine is cracked on the underside of the 90 but thankfully not clear through.
I haven't had any luck finding replacements of these either Lavoy.
Ben
Great Grandpa's 1960 440ICD 602 blade
Between SN's: 455,633 - 456,801
Currently Rebuilding/Restoring
Great Grandpa's 1960 440ICD 602 blade
Between SN's: 455,633 - 456,801
Currently Rebuilding/Restoring
Tried my local Detroit dealer today for some other stuff, and he did not even recognize the block serial number I gave him.
Lavoy
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Lavoy,
Hard to recall but I believe the inlet pipe is a JD part. DD did not have it is only for the 440 ICD.
It will be luck to find one with the correct ID on both ends, a 90 angle, and the correct length.
Also, it has to be thick enough to not collapse with the vacuum pulled by the blower against the oil bath air cleaner.
Hard to recall but I believe the inlet pipe is a JD part. DD did not have it is only for the 440 ICD.
It will be luck to find one with the correct ID on both ends, a 90 angle, and the correct length.
Also, it has to be thick enough to not collapse with the vacuum pulled by the blower against the oil bath air cleaner.
1959 JD 440ICD w/64 Power Angle Tilt Blade
1959 JD 440ICD w/63 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 440IC w/602 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 730D W SE (many options)
1950 JD M S w/M-20 Mower
1952 JD M W
1955 FORD 640 (burns the most fuel)
1959 JD 440ICD w/63 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 440IC w/602 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 730D W SE (many options)
1950 JD M S w/M-20 Mower
1952 JD M W
1955 FORD 640 (burns the most fuel)
That is what I am afraid of. Someone claimed once to have found a replacement, but I am striking out so far.
Lavoy
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- gregjo1948
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JD 440ICD intake hose
I'm not familiar with this hose but I have a thought. Could you use a piece of exhaust pipe the diameter of the small end, bent the 90 degrees you need, and stretch the other end to the diameter you need for the larger end? Using short pieces of hose on each end. Any auto repair or muffler shop could do the job. gregjo1948
JD 350B diesel 6way blade, Case 580B Loader/backhoe, Farmall 504 high crop w/ flail boom mower, International 404 , International 284 diesel w/belly mower, 1972 Ford F600 dump truck, Galion 3-5 roller, Allis Chalmers D17, 1620 Ford
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As 2006 said, I'm thinking this is a JD only part. From surfing fleebay I've noticed that the governor, blower, and oil pan are noticeably different compared to the standard detroit 2-53.
I've had the same issue finding the buffer screw spring for the governor. The DD dealers look at me funny when I give them the part numbers that are in the manual.
Gregjo, that sounds like a pretty good idea. It might be tight with getting extra pieces of short hose in there. The "straight" parts of the elbow in question are very short. Depends on how original of a look you're going for.
I've had the same issue finding the buffer screw spring for the governor. The DD dealers look at me funny when I give them the part numbers that are in the manual.
Gregjo, that sounds like a pretty good idea. It might be tight with getting extra pieces of short hose in there. The "straight" parts of the elbow in question are very short. Depends on how original of a look you're going for.
Ben
Great Grandpa's 1960 440ICD 602 blade
Between SN's: 455,633 - 456,801
Currently Rebuilding/Restoring
Great Grandpa's 1960 440ICD 602 blade
Between SN's: 455,633 - 456,801
Currently Rebuilding/Restoring
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They took the basic GM 2-53 and made a few JD parts so that it would work in the 440 C frame.
It is a detuned version, with 35 MM injectors. JD did not even offer a tach, only an hour meter.
Everything to add a tach is there, all they had to do was offer it as an option but for some reason chose not to do so.
Could be due to the 440 ICD was just a baby step to get them a diesel crawler and on to the New Gen line.
Many a marketing lie was told back then.
It is a detuned version, with 35 MM injectors. JD did not even offer a tach, only an hour meter.
Everything to add a tach is there, all they had to do was offer it as an option but for some reason chose not to do so.
Could be due to the 440 ICD was just a baby step to get them a diesel crawler and on to the New Gen line.
Many a marketing lie was told back then.
1959 JD 440ICD w/64 Power Angle Tilt Blade
1959 JD 440ICD w/63 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 440IC w/602 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 730D W SE (many options)
1950 JD M S w/M-20 Mower
1952 JD M W
1955 FORD 640 (burns the most fuel)
1959 JD 440ICD w/63 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 440IC w/602 Manual Angle Blade
1959 JD 730D W SE (many options)
1950 JD M S w/M-20 Mower
1952 JD M W
1955 FORD 640 (burns the most fuel)
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JD 440ICD intake hose
If you slide the short hoses onto the pipe first; Would it work? Could you start at the larger end with the correct diameter hose with the elbow that you need, and insert a smaller hose inside for the smaller diameter? gregjo1948
JD 350B diesel 6way blade, Case 580B Loader/backhoe, Farmall 504 high crop w/ flail boom mower, International 404 , International 284 diesel w/belly mower, 1972 Ford F600 dump truck, Galion 3-5 roller, Allis Chalmers D17, 1620 Ford
Some radiator hoses are made of EPDM rubber, the same rubber used on flat rubber roofs. There is a EPDM glue that cements / fuses two EPDM pieces together. It is used anytime there is a lap in the roofing.
If you followed gregjo's suggestion, perhaps you could permanently fuse the two hoses together as one. A local flat roof roofer would probably do it for you. They would have the primer and know how to do it. Gil
If you followed gregjo's suggestion, perhaps you could permanently fuse the two hoses together as one. A local flat roof roofer would probably do it for you. They would have the primer and know how to do it. Gil
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