Anyone run a hydraulic pto winch on their Early Crawler ?
Anyone run a hydraulic pto winch on their Early Crawler ?
I purchased a hydraulic winch- I think it is a Garwood- that came off of a large Army truck. I am thinking the army truck is a 5 ton.
Most of these are just straight PTO driven winches, this one is a hydraulic winch.
I figure I'll need 20 gpm or so to run this winch, and I don't want to screw with my 420C's hydraulic system.
I've got a 20 gallon hydraulic tank I can mount behind the seat of my crawler, and I have the plumbing for it.
A Prince 20gpm hydraulic driven 540rpm pump runs about $435 new, including shipping.
I don't want to pay 435, so I've got some feelers out and I may be able to get a take off unit or used unit for $200 or less. I've also got a forward and reverse lever off of a huge wood splitter.
I would like to be able to use this winch to load some old cars and scrap on my trailer. My plan would be to scotch the 420C and trailer and let the winch pull the cars on the trailer.
I know the factory John Dear Gearmatic would be better, but I can likely get this whole setup going for $500 or less. I traded for the winch, I know it runs.
Most of these are just straight PTO driven winches, this one is a hydraulic winch.
I figure I'll need 20 gpm or so to run this winch, and I don't want to screw with my 420C's hydraulic system.
I've got a 20 gallon hydraulic tank I can mount behind the seat of my crawler, and I have the plumbing for it.
A Prince 20gpm hydraulic driven 540rpm pump runs about $435 new, including shipping.
I don't want to pay 435, so I've got some feelers out and I may be able to get a take off unit or used unit for $200 or less. I've also got a forward and reverse lever off of a huge wood splitter.
I would like to be able to use this winch to load some old cars and scrap on my trailer. My plan would be to scotch the 420C and trailer and let the winch pull the cars on the trailer.
I know the factory John Dear Gearmatic would be better, but I can likely get this whole setup going for $500 or less. I traded for the winch, I know it runs.
Others will have to answer this for a 420 crawler, but I would not autmatically assume that the PTO on the 420 crawler rotates at the standard 540 rpm that tractors do. I know that the new generation crawler PTOs aren't a PTO in the traditional sense (they are solely for running winches or hydrualic pumps) and run at a much faster rotation rate.
(1) JD Straight 450 crawler dozer with manual outside blade; (2) JD 2010 diesel crawler loaders; (1) JD 2010 diesel dozer with hydraulic 6-way blade; (2) Model 50 backhoe attachments, misc. other construction equipment
PTO on 420 is standard 540, no need to worry.
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- gregjo1948
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Is scotch a southern term for something or is that a typo? gregjo1948
JD 350B diesel 6way blade, Case 580B Loader/backhoe, Farmall 504 high crop w/ flail boom mower, International 404 , International 284 diesel w/belly mower, 1972 Ford F600 dump truck, Galion 3-5 roller, Allis Chalmers D17, 1620 Ford
I have no idea if it is a southern only thing. I've heard it in Ohio and PA, also from Canadians.
To scotch or scotching refers to use of a scotch block or other device to immobilize a vehicle from moving.
These jackasses have patent(or at least applied for a patent) on something that has been done by others for years: http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20120181121
Of course they're at Universities in NC, so maybe it is a southern expression, or Appalachian-Elizabethean English influenced.
Hmmm.
To scotch or scotching refers to use of a scotch block or other device to immobilize a vehicle from moving.
These jackasses have patent(or at least applied for a patent) on something that has been done by others for years: http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20120181121
Of course they're at Universities in NC, so maybe it is a southern expression, or Appalachian-Elizabethean English influenced.
Hmmm.
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- gregjo1948
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Thank you for the scotch lesson. I live by a (sounds like) crick. It's spelled creek. gregjo1948
JD 350B diesel 6way blade, Case 580B Loader/backhoe, Farmall 504 high crop w/ flail boom mower, International 404 , International 284 diesel w/belly mower, 1972 Ford F600 dump truck, Galion 3-5 roller, Allis Chalmers D17, 1620 Ford
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